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Subject: Murph's got a problem

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Kenny Thompson
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07/13/2008 8:07 AM Alert 
This time of year Murph and I start hitting the training pretty hard in the evenings. We work on just about everything imaginable. Over the past few weeks, we have corrected his cheating and improved his marking skills. However, I have noticed one big problem that I need help fixing. While setting up for cold blinds (having him at heal), his body is lined with the bird, I can't get him to focus straight ahead. He is always swinging his head from side to side like he is trying to find the bird with his eyes. How do I get him to stop swinging his head and focus straight ahead?

Kenny Thompson
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Carl Hughes
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07/14/2008 5:49 AM Alert 
Kenny- Danny Farmers DVD - Solutions has a good run down on how to correct head swing along with other issuses. Available at http://www.gundogsupply.com/onlinecatalog.html

I don't know how you have your training plan laid out but I can tell you what I was doing wrong that caused problems for my dog...head swing. I was "testing" not traning during my traning. The best advice I've run across is you have to break your training periods down and focus on the fundmentals - don't run triples or doubles everytime you train...your testing not training. Lyle Steiman and Greg Nelson will tell you that they run 80% singles with their advance dogs. I'm not an expert and there's alot more to it but when our dogs are having problems it's usually something we are doing....not the dog!!!

Carl
Kenny Thompson
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07/14/2008 10:48 AM Alert 
My training evening usually starts on obedience, then it will run into a refresher on hand signals and then I end it with singles or a blind. We have just started pattern blinds to try and correct the problem. 80% of the time, ne nails the bucket. When I take it aways is what gives him problems and the swinging starts. He goes so far then starts to hunt. Another question is will long 175+ yd singles help to get him to run farther? Will that assist to help him on blinds?

Kenny Thompson
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Carl Hughes
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07/15/2008 5:35 AM Alert 
Again I'm not a pro and we have some of those guys on this site. It sounds like your dog is still working some of the basics - obedience. If you have just started pattern blinds- double T or 3 leg, than your dog is just picking up the cocept of blinds and you may need to slow down and let him run to bucket 100% time before you pull it out. He has to have the confidence when give him a line. It's very hard to tell what might be going on with Murph but I would recommend finding a pro or if you live around west side of KC you can come out to Jeff Crable's in Mclouth Ks. to our training group. Jeff has some young dogs he is working. See home page.

Carl
Kenny Thompson
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07/15/2008 7:51 AM Alert 
Murph was at Doug Griener's in La Cygne for 5 months. He has the T, the double T, and three leg pattern training. For some reason I noticed, he doesn't look much farther than right in front of him. Even on long singles, he goes so far and starts hunting. I need to get him to start looking out farther.

Kenny Thompson
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Greg Nelson
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07/19/2008 10:39 PM Alert 
Kenny-

Call me

Greg Nelson
816-668-5131
www.castilecreekkennels.com


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